There has been a lot of discussion of Cozart potentially being traded. While I would disagree with the move, it's a good time to look at where he stands among Reds shortstops in terms of all-time productivity.
Let's compare a few statistics...
Baseball-reference Wins Above Replacement
1) Barry Larkin, in a landslide. 70.2 WAR in a career spanning 1986 to 2004.
2) Dave Concepcion. 39.8 WAR from 1970 to 1988.
3) Roy McMillan. Earned 18.3 WAR from 1951 to 1960.
4) Leo Cardenas. 14.8 WAR from 1960 to 1968.
5) Billy Myers. 13.6 WAR from 1935 to 1940.
6) Zack Cozart. 12.3 WAR from 2011 to 2016.
7) Buck Herzog. 12.0 WAR in only 3 seasons, 1914 to 1916.
8) Eddie Miller. 10.6 WAR, mostly earned during his second stint in Cincinnati from 1943 through 1946.
Offensive WAR only
1) Larkin - 67.5
2) Concepcion - 32.3
3) Cardenas - 13.8
4) McMillan - 12.4
5) Myers - 10.7
6) Buck Herzog - 9.1
7) Felipe Lopez - 6.4
8) Zack Cozart - 6.1
Defensive WAR only
1) Concepcion - 20.9
2) McMillan - 14.4
3) Larkin - 13.8
4) Miller - 10.5
5) Cozart - 9.1
6) Cardenas - 8.5
7) Hod Ford - 7.6
8) Myers - 7.3
NOTE: oWAR and dWAR do not sum to WAR, for a couple different reasons not worth going into in this post.
So it's clear that Larkin and Concepcion were in a class by themselves, as far as all-time Reds shortstops. Cozart falls into the next tier with guys like McMillan, Cardenas, and Myers. But with his consistently solid defensive game, and dramatic improvements on offense, I have little doubt that Cozart would (have) move(d) into the top tier within the next couple seasons, and be a sure-fire Reds Hall of Famer.
Mr. Redlegs is watching you. Always.
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Friday, June 22, 2012
Reds All-Time Offensive Leaders in Interleague Play
Since interleague play began in 1997 the Cincinnati Reds have, without question, been a team in flux. They've made only one playoff appearance (in 2010) and the lineup, aside from a few mainstays, has shifted on an almost annual basis.
For example, the cutoff I used in comparing rate stats for this post was 55 interleague games - which is not even equivalent to four full seasons of such contests. Even so, only 10 players made the mark.
Active players underlined. All statistics through June 21st, 2012 - so they exclude the Reds/Twins series.
Most games:
1) Griffey - 115
2) Phillips - 106
3) Dunn - 98
4) Casey - 93
5) Larkin - 71
6) Bruce - 70
7) Votto - 67
8) Reese - 66
9) LaRue - 61
10) A. Boone - 55
Most hits:
1) Phillips - 132
2) Griffey - 105
3) Casey - 94
4) Dunn - 87
5) Larkin - 82
Most doubles:
1) Tie - Larkin, Votto and Phillips - 18
4) Casey - 17
5) Tie - Dunn and Bruce - 16
Most triples:
1) Larkin - 4
2) Numerous others tied with 1
Most home runs:
1) Griffey - 32
2) Dunn - 28
3) Votto - 18
4) Phillips - 17
Most RBIs:
1) Griffey - 71
2) Phillips - 62
3) Dunn - 56
4) Votto - 49
5) Casey - 43
Most walks:
1) Dunn - 59
2) Griffey - 43
3) Larkin - 39
4) Votto - 38
5) Casey - 30
Most strikeouts:
1) Dunn - 125
2) Griffey - 102
3) Bruce - 72
Most stolen bases:
1) Phillips - 20
2) Reese - 14
3) Tie - Freel and Stubbs - 10
Best batting average:
1) Phillips - .317
2) Larkin - .314
3) Votto - .298
Best on-base percentage:
1) Larkin - .401
2) Votto - .394
3) Dunn - .361
The biggest surprises from this list, for me:
- Brandon Phillips dominated a bunch of categories. I didn't expect him to have the best batting average or second-most RBIs. Very impressive.
- Joey Votto with a batting average below .300 is a shocker.
For example, the cutoff I used in comparing rate stats for this post was 55 interleague games - which is not even equivalent to four full seasons of such contests. Even so, only 10 players made the mark.
Active players underlined. All statistics through June 21st, 2012 - so they exclude the Reds/Twins series.
Most games:
1) Griffey - 115
2) Phillips - 106
3) Dunn - 98
4) Casey - 93
5) Larkin - 71
6) Bruce - 70
7) Votto - 67
8) Reese - 66
9) LaRue - 61
10) A. Boone - 55
Most hits:
1) Phillips - 132
2) Griffey - 105
3) Casey - 94
4) Dunn - 87
5) Larkin - 82
Most doubles:
1) Tie - Larkin, Votto and Phillips - 18
4) Casey - 17
5) Tie - Dunn and Bruce - 16
Most triples:
1) Larkin - 4
2) Numerous others tied with 1
Most home runs:
1) Griffey - 32
2) Dunn - 28
3) Votto - 18
4) Phillips - 17
Most RBIs:
1) Griffey - 71
2) Phillips - 62
3) Dunn - 56
4) Votto - 49
5) Casey - 43
Most walks:
1) Dunn - 59
2) Griffey - 43
3) Larkin - 39
4) Votto - 38
5) Casey - 30
Most strikeouts:
1) Dunn - 125
2) Griffey - 102
3) Bruce - 72
Most stolen bases:
1) Phillips - 20
2) Reese - 14
3) Tie - Freel and Stubbs - 10
Best batting average:
1) Phillips - .317
2) Larkin - .314
3) Votto - .298
Best on-base percentage:
1) Larkin - .401
2) Votto - .394
3) Dunn - .361
The biggest surprises from this list, for me:
- Brandon Phillips dominated a bunch of categories. I didn't expect him to have the best batting average or second-most RBIs. Very impressive.
- Joey Votto with a batting average below .300 is a shocker.
Thursday, April 5, 2012
The men behind the win 4/5/12: Reds 4, Marlins 0
I'm no Marlins fan, to be sure, but before we get on to celebrating this excellent Opening Day victory, I want to thank their organization for three things:
1) Being such good sports for taking an embarrassing stadium-opening loss to Kyle Lohse, then heading straight up to Cincinnati for an afternoon game against a much better pitcher.
2) Changing their name to Miami, so "Back to the Future 2" can look even more prescient. The only problem was they had Miami facing the Cubs in the World Series, so one team has to move to the AL.
3) Changing their colors to a combination that thugs and wannabes apparently find even more appealing than that of our Redlegs. For years, I've never been sure whether I might say "go Reds" to someone in a Cincinnati hat and have them shoot me. The new Miami hat is everywhere, so honestly, a heartfelt thanks.
Now for the men behind today's win in front of a GABP record crowd...
1) Johnny Cueto. 2011's ace looks like 2012's ace, and I think we'd all be cool with that. No runs, 3 hits in 7 innings. Four strikeouts, 2 walks. Nobody reached third base. Beautiful work.
2) Jay Bruce. Hopefully 2012's Bruce can sustain effectiveness at the plate and in the field after a little dropoff (mostly defensively) in 2011. He was great today - 2 RBIs, including the first of the game (a sacrifice fly) in the 1st, and a solo homer in the 8th to put the Reds up 3-0.
3) Aroldis Chapman. It's really frustrating that we need him in the bullpen this year, but if he's stuck there, let him keep dominating like he did today. With only a 2-run lead in the top of the 8th inning, he held the Marlins in check (striking out two).
4) Zack Cozart. Great to see our shortstop go 2 for 4 in his first regular season game since the unfortunate injury last season. I really feel like this could be our first solid all-around SS since the Larkin days.
1-0. First place. 161 games to go.
1) Being such good sports for taking an embarrassing stadium-opening loss to Kyle Lohse, then heading straight up to Cincinnati for an afternoon game against a much better pitcher.
2) Changing their name to Miami, so "Back to the Future 2" can look even more prescient. The only problem was they had Miami facing the Cubs in the World Series, so one team has to move to the AL.
3) Changing their colors to a combination that thugs and wannabes apparently find even more appealing than that of our Redlegs. For years, I've never been sure whether I might say "go Reds" to someone in a Cincinnati hat and have them shoot me. The new Miami hat is everywhere, so honestly, a heartfelt thanks.
Now for the men behind today's win in front of a GABP record crowd...
1) Johnny Cueto. 2011's ace looks like 2012's ace, and I think we'd all be cool with that. No runs, 3 hits in 7 innings. Four strikeouts, 2 walks. Nobody reached third base. Beautiful work.
2) Jay Bruce. Hopefully 2012's Bruce can sustain effectiveness at the plate and in the field after a little dropoff (mostly defensively) in 2011. He was great today - 2 RBIs, including the first of the game (a sacrifice fly) in the 1st, and a solo homer in the 8th to put the Reds up 3-0.
3) Aroldis Chapman. It's really frustrating that we need him in the bullpen this year, but if he's stuck there, let him keep dominating like he did today. With only a 2-run lead in the top of the 8th inning, he held the Marlins in check (striking out two).
4) Zack Cozart. Great to see our shortstop go 2 for 4 in his first regular season game since the unfortunate injury last season. I really feel like this could be our first solid all-around SS since the Larkin days.
1-0. First place. 161 games to go.
Tuesday, September 20, 2011
Most career WAR among Cincinnati Reds position players
These stats, as usual, have been collected from baseball-reference. Only seasons with the Reds are included.
1) Pete Rose - 74.6 wins above replacement in 19 seasons
2) Johnny Bench - 71.3 in 17 seasons
3) Barry Larkin - 68.9 in 19 seasons
4) Frank Robinson - 61.5 in 10 seasons
5) Joe Morgan - 61.3 in 8 seasons
6) Vada Pinson - 45.1 in 11 seasons
7) Tony Perez - 43.8 in 16 seasons
8) Edd Roush - 41.1 in 12 seasons
9) Heinie Groh - 38.7 in 9 seasons
10) George Foster - 38.1 in 11 seasons
11) Dave Concepcion - 33.6 in 19 seasons
12) Lonny Frey - 30.4 in 7 seasons
13) Ted Kluszewski - 29.7 in 11 seasons
14) Eric Davis - 29.4 in 9 seasons
15) Frank McCormick - 29.0 in 10 seasons
16) Ernie Lombardi - 27.1 in 10 seasons
17) Ken Griffey Sr. - 23.7 in 12 seasons
18) Adam Dunn - 22.2 in 8 seasons
19) Reggie Sanders - 21.6 in 8 seasons
20) Ival Goodman - 21.3 in 8 seasons
There you have it - 20 Reds position players with 20+ accumulated WAR. Soon to break on to this list (and hopefully sticking around in Cincinnati to reach the top ten) is Joey Votto (19.8 WAR). Rose, Bench and Larkin make a pretty awesome top 3 - clearly the kings of combined success and longevity in the Queen City. Then you have Robinson and Morgan, who dominate this list on a WAR-per-season basis and would easily be #1 and 2 if they'd spent their whole careers in Cincinnati.
1) Pete Rose - 74.6 wins above replacement in 19 seasons
2) Johnny Bench - 71.3 in 17 seasons
3) Barry Larkin - 68.9 in 19 seasons
4) Frank Robinson - 61.5 in 10 seasons
5) Joe Morgan - 61.3 in 8 seasons
6) Vada Pinson - 45.1 in 11 seasons
7) Tony Perez - 43.8 in 16 seasons
8) Edd Roush - 41.1 in 12 seasons
9) Heinie Groh - 38.7 in 9 seasons
10) George Foster - 38.1 in 11 seasons
11) Dave Concepcion - 33.6 in 19 seasons
12) Lonny Frey - 30.4 in 7 seasons
13) Ted Kluszewski - 29.7 in 11 seasons
14) Eric Davis - 29.4 in 9 seasons
15) Frank McCormick - 29.0 in 10 seasons
16) Ernie Lombardi - 27.1 in 10 seasons
17) Ken Griffey Sr. - 23.7 in 12 seasons
18) Adam Dunn - 22.2 in 8 seasons
19) Reggie Sanders - 21.6 in 8 seasons
20) Ival Goodman - 21.3 in 8 seasons
There you have it - 20 Reds position players with 20+ accumulated WAR. Soon to break on to this list (and hopefully sticking around in Cincinnati to reach the top ten) is Joey Votto (19.8 WAR). Rose, Bench and Larkin make a pretty awesome top 3 - clearly the kings of combined success and longevity in the Queen City. Then you have Robinson and Morgan, who dominate this list on a WAR-per-season basis and would easily be #1 and 2 if they'd spent their whole careers in Cincinnati.
Saturday, September 17, 2011
Top ten seasons of Cincinnati Reds shortstops
We continue around the horn to shortstop, where (near-)future Hall of Famer Barry Larkin reigns supreme. As usual, I examined players in history with at least 120 games played, and at least 50% of those as the position in question. I looked at a number of conventional stats, as well as WAR and any awards received. The final judgment was based on both objective rankings and subjective weighting, especially with respect to awards.
1) Barry Larkin, 1996. This wasn't his MVP season, but it was better in every way. 7.4 WAR (easily the best of his career or any Red SS in history). Ranks first in Red SS history for HR, runs, RBI, walks, and OPS. Won a Gold Glove, Silver Slugger, and finished 12th in MVP voting. Became the first 30-30 shortstop in MLB history, and is still the only Red SS to hit 30 homers.
2) Barry Larkin, 1995. NL MVP, Gold Glove, Silver Slugger. First in Red SS history for stolen bases and batting average. 5.9 WAR.
The best of the rest:
3) Barry Larkin, 1998. 5.9 WAR, second among Red SS in batting average and OPS
4) Barry Larkin, 1999. 5.2 WAR, second among Red SS in runs and walks
5) Barry Larkin, 1988. 6.2 WAR, second among Red SS in hits
6) Dave Concepcion, 1974. 5.1 WAR, Gold Glove winner
7) Barry Larkin, 1991.
8) Barry Larkin, 1992.
9) Barry Larkin, 1990.
10) Dave Concepcion, 1979.
Others worth mentioning:
Roy McMillan 1956
Leo Cardenas 1965
Dave Concepcion 1976
Eddie Miller 1974
Felipe Lopez 2005
1) Barry Larkin, 1996. This wasn't his MVP season, but it was better in every way. 7.4 WAR (easily the best of his career or any Red SS in history). Ranks first in Red SS history for HR, runs, RBI, walks, and OPS. Won a Gold Glove, Silver Slugger, and finished 12th in MVP voting. Became the first 30-30 shortstop in MLB history, and is still the only Red SS to hit 30 homers.
2) Barry Larkin, 1995. NL MVP, Gold Glove, Silver Slugger. First in Red SS history for stolen bases and batting average. 5.9 WAR.
The best of the rest:
3) Barry Larkin, 1998. 5.9 WAR, second among Red SS in batting average and OPS
4) Barry Larkin, 1999. 5.2 WAR, second among Red SS in runs and walks
5) Barry Larkin, 1988. 6.2 WAR, second among Red SS in hits
6) Dave Concepcion, 1974. 5.1 WAR, Gold Glove winner
7) Barry Larkin, 1991.
8) Barry Larkin, 1992.
9) Barry Larkin, 1990.
10) Dave Concepcion, 1979.
Others worth mentioning:
Roy McMillan 1956
Leo Cardenas 1965
Dave Concepcion 1976
Eddie Miller 1974
Felipe Lopez 2005
Wednesday, July 13, 2011
Cincinnati Reds All-Star Game History
The Reds were abysmal last night in the All-Star Game, going 0 for 6 with 4 strikeouts, plus an error by Jay Bruce. Here are the highlights and lowlights in Reds' ASG history.
Best combined hitting:
1) 1976. 7 for 14, 3 runs, 4 RBI, 1 HR. Bench, Concepcion, Foster, Griffey, Perez, Morgan and Rose. Foster's 3-run HR was the highlight.
2) 1956. 6 for 15, 3 runs, 2 RBI. Bailey, Kluszewski, Bell, Robinson, McMillan, Temple. Big Klu was 2 for 2.
3) 1954. 3 for 5, 3 runs, 5 RBI, 2 HR from only two players - Bell and Kluszewski.
4) 1980. 3 for 6, 3 runs, 1 RBI, 1 HR. Bench, Concepcion, Knight, and Griffey - who had the HR.
5) 1975. 5 for 15, 2 RBI. Bench, Morgan, Rose, Concepcion, Perez.
Honorable mention to 1967...only 1 for 4, but the hit was a game-winning HR by Perez in the 15th inning.
Best pitching:
1) 1940. 4 IP, 0 runs allowed. Derringer (got the win) and Walters.
2) 1990. 4 IP, 0 runs allowed. Armstrong, Dibble and Myers.
3) 1942. 4 IP, 0 runs allowed. Vander Meer and Walters.
4) 1938. 3 IP, 0 runs allowed by Vander Meer, who also got the win.
5) 1982. 2.1 IP, 0 runs allowed. Soto and Hume, who recorded a save.
Worst all-around:
1) 1995. 0 for 6 with 2 strikeouts at the plate. 2 runs allowed in 2 innings pitched.
2) 1965. 0 for 3 at the plate. 5 ER in 1.2 IP by Jim Maloney.
3) 2011. 0 for 6 with 4 strikeouts.
4) 1977. 2 for 12 with 2 R, 2 RBI, 1 HR. Five all-world guys should've done better with all those at-bats. And Seaver gave up 3 runs in 2 IP.
5) 1981. 0 for 5. Solo HR allowed in 1 IP.
Honorable mention to 1970 at Riverfront...if it weren't for Rose scoring the winning run, the Reds going 1 for 9 in the game would've been an embarrassment.
Best individual hitters, min. 10 AB:
1) Johnny Bench. 10 for 28
2) Ted Kluszewski. 7 for 14
3) Frank Robinson. 5 for 12
Worst individual hitters, min. 10 AB:
1) Barry Larkin. 2 for 18
2) Pete Rose. 6 for 27.
3) Joe Morgan. 6 for 24.
Best combined hitting:
1) 1976. 7 for 14, 3 runs, 4 RBI, 1 HR. Bench, Concepcion, Foster, Griffey, Perez, Morgan and Rose. Foster's 3-run HR was the highlight.
2) 1956. 6 for 15, 3 runs, 2 RBI. Bailey, Kluszewski, Bell, Robinson, McMillan, Temple. Big Klu was 2 for 2.
3) 1954. 3 for 5, 3 runs, 5 RBI, 2 HR from only two players - Bell and Kluszewski.
4) 1980. 3 for 6, 3 runs, 1 RBI, 1 HR. Bench, Concepcion, Knight, and Griffey - who had the HR.
5) 1975. 5 for 15, 2 RBI. Bench, Morgan, Rose, Concepcion, Perez.
Honorable mention to 1967...only 1 for 4, but the hit was a game-winning HR by Perez in the 15th inning.
Best pitching:
1) 1940. 4 IP, 0 runs allowed. Derringer (got the win) and Walters.
2) 1990. 4 IP, 0 runs allowed. Armstrong, Dibble and Myers.
3) 1942. 4 IP, 0 runs allowed. Vander Meer and Walters.
4) 1938. 3 IP, 0 runs allowed by Vander Meer, who also got the win.
5) 1982. 2.1 IP, 0 runs allowed. Soto and Hume, who recorded a save.
Worst all-around:
1) 1995. 0 for 6 with 2 strikeouts at the plate. 2 runs allowed in 2 innings pitched.
2) 1965. 0 for 3 at the plate. 5 ER in 1.2 IP by Jim Maloney.
3) 2011. 0 for 6 with 4 strikeouts.
4) 1977. 2 for 12 with 2 R, 2 RBI, 1 HR. Five all-world guys should've done better with all those at-bats. And Seaver gave up 3 runs in 2 IP.
5) 1981. 0 for 5. Solo HR allowed in 1 IP.
Honorable mention to 1970 at Riverfront...if it weren't for Rose scoring the winning run, the Reds going 1 for 9 in the game would've been an embarrassment.
Best individual hitters, min. 10 AB:
1) Johnny Bench. 10 for 28
2) Ted Kluszewski. 7 for 14
3) Frank Robinson. 5 for 12
Worst individual hitters, min. 10 AB:
1) Barry Larkin. 2 for 18
2) Pete Rose. 6 for 27.
3) Joe Morgan. 6 for 24.
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